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Coma White + Coma Black含义解析

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在首页上看到13年介绍MA的帖子又正好在外网上看到一篇解析coma white/black的段子,就决定把关于coma white/black的段子挖下来翻译了


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吧里介绍Mechanical Animals专辑的原帖,大家可以先看一下然后把接下来我要发的跟它的剧情联系一下 传送门:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2508923905


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就下来就先上第一段和翻译了lz自己翻译的可能要等很久


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Along with February 14th, Coma White is another recurring element in the Triptych which is a highly debated and largely misinterpreted aspect of it. In Mechanical Animals and The Triptych, Coma White is represented as a girl, the love interest of Manson. But though the representation is of a girl it's only a personification of the metaphor that Coma plays in the life of this story's protagonist. Manson himself has stated that Coma is not literally a woman but is a personification of an ideal of perfection, an unobtainable entity which we forever pine after and seek to make tangible but forever out of reach. It's a concept which the representation of which, though illustrated as a girl, is interchangeable with all that we use to numb and pleasure ourselves with: drugs, sex, religion, TV,etc. It's these very things which we use to attempt to bring us closer to this state of perfection to make us happy, these things that we believe bring us closer to "god", that liberates us but in reality does nothing but make us numb, inebriate us and make us more and more mechanical. Where in order to survive and function a "fuel" is needed: inject our veins or snort some powder; fuck to heighten our emotions; getting off voyeuristically in front of a screen at the misery of others; have the assurance that there's a higher power that makes you better than everyone else or at least being "one of the Beautiful People" to just look like you are, all to make life seemingly worth living. But this contentment instead makes us automatons in need of another "hit" in order to survive. Mystics claim that the orgasm felt during sex for a mere few seconds is a brief but dulled glimpse of the experience of being one with god, yet god is perpetually out of reach and "a number you cannot count to." So we use these methods and crutches to try to reach this perfect intangible state being but instead bring us further and further away from it because these things are a synthetic and induced happiness, as well as completely temporary, where the constant need for them makes us more like soulless machines.


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直到2月14日,Coma White是另一个在三重曲(Antichrist Superstar,Mechanical Animals和Holy wood)中不断出现且被经常争论和严重误解的一方面。在Mechanical Animals还有三重曲里,Coma White是一个Manson迷恋的女孩。但是即使表面上她代表了一个女孩这也只是在主角Omega一生中出现的一种拟人的暗喻。


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Manson他自己声明Coma White其实并不是一个女孩,而是一种完美的偶像的拟人化,一个我们一生追求想得到却无法触及的物体。她虽然被介绍成是一个女孩,但是却是一种可变化的物体。其中包括那些我们用来让我们自己麻木,娱乐我们自己的东西:毒品,性,信仰,电视,等等。她就是那些我们用来去尝试让我们离我们所说的完美更近从而让我们满足开心的东西,那些让我们相信能让我们离我们所说的“上帝”更近的东西,那些释放我们自己但是在现实中却什么用也没有却又让我们更加麻木,麻醉我们然后让我们越来越更加的机械化的东西。


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因为为了生存于是就出现了一种需要的“汽油”(暗喻机械需要汽油才能工作):把毒品打进我们的血管或者吸白粉;上床然后让我们自己开心;在屏幕前摆脱自己的偷窥癖好同时让别人生气;让自己相信在这个世界上还有更强大的力量能够让你比别人更好或者至少成为一名“the beautiful people(美丽之人)”,让生活变的更加值得,美好。但这些令人满足的东西却把我们变成像机械一样冰冷,因为我们还想去得到更好更让我们满足的的东西。


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许多神话声明了在性爱中的高潮只有仅仅几秒但是却让人感觉有一种和上帝在一起迷糊的感觉,但是上帝却是永远我们触及不到的,他是一个“我们永远数不到的数字”。于是我们就尝试用这些方法和精神寄托(之前提到的性,毒品,信仰什么的)让我们触及到这个完美却无法触及的东西,却其实在现实中让我们离这个东西越来越远。因为这些所谓的方法和精神寄托都是人造的引起快乐,他们给的快乐永远只是暂时的。但是我们为了一直得到它们从而让我们以为自己离“上帝”越来越近,不惜一切干了残忍卑鄙的事情让我们越来越像没有灵魂的机械。


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第一段翻完了接下来上第二段


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这是Mechanical Animals里面Coma white的照片,摄影师Man Ray


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In Mechanical Animals and the Triptych, Coma is Manson (or ADAM's) pursuit of love, his ideal who is fragile and beautiful, the one he needs in order to survive, the pursuit of which makes his life worth living. Everyone has that same ideal; finding that perfect person, getting married and everything will be magic and infinite bliss as opposed to the reality of growing bored with each other and divorcing after an indefinite period of time. Mechanical Animals acts as a dual-sided concept album. On one side is the innocent and sensitive aspect of ADAM or Manson and the other is his public persona, Omēga, the doped-out over-the-top rock star singing hollow anthems about drugs and sex. In this chronology, ADAM has become corrupted and impressionable born again as Omēga, turning into a Mechanical Animal himself where, "In the end I became them" (which Manson recites on the album's hidden track that can be heard when inserting the disc into a computer). The innocent and sensitive aspect chronicles and reveals another dimension to Omēga, his internal conflict and his search for his Coma White. It was in his quest for Coma which in part corrupted him and turned him into Omēga, taking the convenient and synthetic route, the substitutes for the real object. (For more on this storyline of Manson's Triptych refer to this article's sister writing of Valentine's Day / February 14th on The NACHTKABARETT). The album's artwork illustrates this point with the narcotic infused imagery to the hidden quotes which all appear predominantly in the Omēga aspect of the album to illustrate this internal conflict with himself.


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在Mechanical Animals还有三部曲(Antichrist Superstar,Mechanical Animals和 Holy wood)里面,Coma是Manson(或者Adam)的爱的追求,他的一个美丽又脆弱的偶像,一个他需要得到从而让他继续生存的东西,一个他觉得得到了就能让他觉得活着很美好很有价值的物体。世界上的所有人都有一个同样的偶像;找到一个完美的人,和他/她在一起然后所有东西都会变的奇迹般的美好。但是同时他们也忘了现实,两个人会慢慢对对方失去热情然后在一段时间后离婚。Mechanical Animals这本专辑里出现了两个人物。一方面是一个叫做Adam的天真又机智的角色,另一方面就是曼森的公众形象,Omega,一个一天到晚吸毒而且自傲的摇滚明星,一个一天到晚唱关于性和毒品毫无含义的歌的外星人。


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随着时间的推移Adam变的易受影响和堕落的,于是他就成为了Omega。变成了一个机械化动物,曼森说道“在最后我变成了他们”(这是一句专辑中隐藏的话,如果你把MA的碟插进电脑就能听到了)。这个天真又机智的Adam随着时间变成了邪恶的Omega以后他的内心产生了矛盾,于是他开始寻找能够让他变的更加美好的Coma White。


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就在他寻找Coma White的同时他却变的更加的堕落,因为他使用了人为的方法(毒品),他尝试用毒品来接触到Coma White(就是在毒品产生幻觉的时候)。Omega这个角色其实就是暗喻了曼球当时自己心里的矛盾,他在MA的时候一直吸毒,但是大概是那个时候曼森也下定决心要跟毒品说再见。


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