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-------------译者:喵行江湖-审核者:瓶子------------ You could also make the argument that China is just looking for a reason to bring WW2 up again. Japan has apologized several times (7 or 8, I think), yet China still claims that Japan has NEVER apologized.
Yes, Japan did horrible things during WW2. Get over it. You dont see Jewish people constantly badmouthing Germany the way that China badmouths and protests Japan. 你还可以对中国只是在有意重新挑起二战旧事发表一下看法。 日本已经道歉很多次( 我记得 是7次还是8次),可是至今中国依然声称日本从来没有道歉过。是的,日本在二战期间确实犯下了不可饶恕的罪行。算了吧,犹太人对德国人都没像中国人对日本人那样各种抗议声讨。
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dec 19, 2012, 16:58 #12
sanblvd (楼主)
Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer
You could also make the argument that China is just looking for a reason to bring WW2 up again. Japan has apologized several times (7 or 8, I think), yet China still claims that Japan has NEVER apologized.
Yes, Japan did horrible things during WW2. Get over it. You dont see Jewish people constantly badmouthing Germany the way that China badmouths and protests Japan.
Ah, let me summarize this.
1. Japan had made official apologize many times, so it is China's fault that they keep asking for more apology, they are being unreasonable.
2. Just as many other groups like Jewish have forgave Germany, China should do the same to Japan and get over it.
So in the end it all come down to unreasonable China trying to pick on the innocent Japan all for political reasons related to today, which have nothing to do with the past.
Is this the way many people feel in Japan today towards China? 回复楼上
啊,让我来总结一下:
1、日本官方已经道歉很多次了,所以中国继续要求日本道歉是错误的,他们这是没有道理。
2、就像其他很多相似的情况,犹太人已经原谅了德国,中国应该也原谅日本,然后不再重提
所以,现在中国因为政治方面的因素对无辜的日本翻旧账挑刺,是很不理智的,因为这些问题和过去(日本干了什么)无关。
这是不是现在很多日本人看待中国时的观点?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dec 19, 2012, 17:43 #13
Glenski
I think Japan's "apologies" have not really been direct admissions of guilt. I think they have more or less simply stated that the incidents were "regrettable". I could be wrong, but if not, then they really need to come out and declare their role.
You need to get off this kick of "many people in Japan" and pin down an age group, otherwise you aren't fairly representing things. We've already said that today's students don't learn that much if anything at all about WWII. What they hear about China is more hearsay, I think.
Oh, and Japan was not "innocent". 我认为日本所谓的道歉并没有真正的承认罪行。我认为他们多多少少只停留在该事件只是“令人遗憾的”程度。我也许是错的,但是如果我说的没错,那么她们真的需要出来正视他们(在二战)所扮演的角色。
你需要放弃这可笑的“日本的很多人”概念,换之以年龄分层,否则你根本代表不了什么(译:此句求其他意见)。我们早就说过现今的学生们根本没有学多少关于二战的历史,他们对中国的了解仅限于传闻,我估计。哦,而且日本人也并不“无辜”。
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dec 19, 2012, 18:17 #14
nahadef
Just for the record, I think China is unreasonable, but I'm not Japanese. Most Japanese simply want it to stop, but I rarely hear a Japanese (purposely) insult another country by saying something like that. 客观的说,我认为中国在这件事上是没有道理的,声明:我不是日本人。 大多数日本人只想让这件事过去,我很少听到日本人(故意的)说这类事情去侮辱其他国家。
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dec 20, 2012, 02:28 #15
GaijinGolfer
Originally Posted by sanblvd
Ah, let me summarize this.
1. Japan had made official apologize many times……
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Lets bring up a more recent news story:
http://www.japantoday.com/category/p...abes-sincerityAbe recently stated that he wants to work to improve relations with China, which China quickly came back and said they were highly skeptical that Abe was sincere in that statement. Really, China? Really?
Is Japan innocent and could they have maybe done more? Perhaps. However, is China being unreasonable and bratty? Yup! 回复sanblvd
让我们来看看近期的新闻吧:
http://www.japantoday.com/category/p...abes-sincerity 安培晋三最近表示,他想努力改善与中国的关系,中国对此迅速做出回应,表示他们严重怀疑安培这个声明的真诚度。真的么中国?真的么?
日本是否是无辜的,他们能不能做得更多点? 可能吧。 然而,中国是不可理喻又惹人讨厌,是肯定的!